America's terrible trains are an ideological triumph
@LurkingGrue wrote: Though a lot of those were also tested outside of the country decades before. I expect for calls to privatize the water system here like what was done in Ecuador, Colombia or the...
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@jerwin wrote: yeah, google says 143 miles versus 714 km Read full topic
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@SteampunkBanana wrote: Many of his "public" works are being removed or destroyed in order to create a more pedestrian friendly version of the city instead of his glorious vision of cars everywhere!...
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@MikeKStar wrote: Taken in context for the era and compared to other sociopath types who use their power and influence exclusively for personal gain, I'd argue Moses did some good along the way. Yes,...
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@SteampunkBanana wrote: MikeKStar: These projects don't benefit just rich, white folk. Now. You forgot the word now. Because when Jones Beach was built it most assuredly did, given the planned design...
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@MikeKStar wrote: SteampunkBanana: Because when Jones Beach was built it most assuredly did, given the planned design to make the overpasses to Jones Beach just slightly too short for buses to go...
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@Krist wrote: lolipop_jones: like lampreys hooking into a fat sea trout. Nice metaphor. Read full topic
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@L_Mariachi wrote: SteampunkBanana: He destroyed a playground to create a parking lot for Tavern on the Green. RM sucked for a lot of reasons, but there has been a replacement playground right across...
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@SteampunkBanana wrote: And there's parking on the streets. Tearing into any greenspace in Central Park is not something to be done lightly, let alone to create an asphalt-covered space that is used...
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@Brainspore wrote: lolipop_jones: The Golden Gate bridge was completed ahead of schedule and under budget. So was Hoover Dam, the other iconic public works project of the last century. I challenge any...
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@SteampunkBanana wrote: MikeKStar: The context of the times was heavily influenced by the economic devastation of the Great Depression and New Deal reforms And yet he hung in there through the '60's....
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@SteampunkBanana wrote: We'd also meet a lot more project budgets if we treated the workers like they did in the 1930's. Instead we have all this safety business and pay skilled workers a decent rate....
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@petr wrote: Thanks for calling it out. I may be wrong about which Russian cities they were (this was from a conversation about a decade ago) However, I think the main point still stands. Of course it...
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@Mausium wrote: Brainspore: this doesn't fit the "government waste" narrative so you've probably never heard of it. Facts? What are these facts? Resets goalposts. Read full topic
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@gellfex wrote: MikeKStar: The co-worker [in Caro's book] all but implies that Moses purposefully built 204 bridges on Long Island too low for buses or trucks to clear. Due to poorer minorities being...
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@L_Mariachi wrote: Worker pay and safety may increase the cost of bulding, but it has nothing to do with whether a project meets its budget. The planners are well aware of the current price of labor...
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@L_Mariachi wrote: I’m just sayin “moved“ a playground is more accurate than “destroyed.” As for parking on the streets… I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the lot was built at the behest of the...
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@SteampunkBanana wrote: Moved? Ten years after they knock one down to build a new one is not "moved." Playground destroyed, against the wishes of the neighborhood:...
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@kennykb wrote: Back on the subject of trains. (Much as I would like to discuss Robert Moses, who tore down a big swath of my neighbourhood and then didn't even build the promised road!) Amtrak is in...
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@L_Mariachi wrote: I didn’t realize it took that long. I grew up playing there, but it was built not long before I was born, so as far as I was concerned it, like the rest of the world, was always...
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@jhertzli wrote: Fascinating. Speaking as a right-wing nutjob, I'm glad to see the Other Side can match even nativists (the wrong side of the Right) in wacko conspiracy theories. Read full topic
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@bobtato wrote: But that would undermine my poorly-researched rant so, logically, it must be incorrect. Read full topic
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@cre8love4all wrote: Greyhound, Megabus, Boltbus etc can add and adjust routes as needed without needing to wait for someone to build a track or politicians to approve money. They see demand and BAM...
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@Mindysan33 wrote: Except it's not and never has been. Many attempts to create public transit in the post-car era has met with strong opposition from corporations, and guess who often won. Other...
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